Luminous Green Interview with Theun Karelse
How would you describe who you are and what you do in a few sentences?
A short description of someone's role in the cultural field seems ever more illusive. I've recently realized that moving between 'lower-class' work (like fruit picking) and 'middle' or 'upper-class' work (like speaking at conferences) is confusing to people. I think freeing up this vertical direction is an important side effect of what I do.
Who and what inspires you in your work& life (people, books, artworks...)? Why?
My main all-time inspirators; Julian Barbour and Emmy Noether, who advocate views of spacetime and symmetry-laws that I hold to be very innovative and deeply beautiful. The cultural historian Kenneth Clark and his way of looking at history not through eyewitness accounts, but through looking at the artefacts, buildings, etc; the arts and sciences produced by cultures. The writer Alan Moore for his great work in graphic novels. The people who created the awesome solar-headed petroglyphs of Central Asia. The early Christian desert hermits. The hilarious and amazing Saint Francis of Asissi and Saint Joseph of Cupertino. And currently the people of the Gurukula Botanical sanctuary for showing a relentless dedication to living harmoniously with their ecosystem and ecosystem gardening.
What does 'resilience' mean for you?
At some point the word 'sustainable' ran out of steam and 'resilience' popped up as a more fundamental unit, I hesitate to define of what..
How would you finish the following sentences:
- Personal resilience is about being balanced between agency and reflection. I mean both Plato and Batman were part-time cave-dwellers. We need space to develop our agency in the world and technologies are rapidly increasing this ability, but also space to consider our role and impact upon things.
- Social resilience is about being open to change as a society and not only open to the future but also to the past.
- Planetary resilience is about resilience for all species and minerals aka closed loops.
Which aspects of contemporary culture give you hope for the future?
Key beliefs (or fallacies) of societies are shown most prominently in their martyrs. It could be interesting to have a look at who our martyrs are if we have any. Generally it seems the age of passive consumption needs shaking up. Hacker culture, citizen science and cross-disciplinary collaboration seem like the way to go.
What did you appreciate the most from the Luminous Green retreat? What were you surprised by?
The generosity of listening that exists between many participants of LG was very productive. What shifted my world view the most is the observation from biology that low nutrient systems generally support the highest diversity.
Which project, proposal or statement from Luminous Green do you want to continue working on?
Bridging gaps between species by gardening, mapping and sensing as is shown in various proposals is a thing I would like to focus on. I think this touches on work done or proposed by almost everyone present. Probably my research on Saints could benefit future cycling 'Pollinators'.
What would you need from the Luminous Green community and what are you willing to offer?
I'm willing to support any activities undertaken as a result of LG2010 that fit my skills. This could include visualizing, building, growing, chopping, mapping, carrying, cleaning, unraveling, seeding, presenting, connecting, recording or pre-enacting and budget hunting.
Is there someone whom you would invite to the next Luminous Green and what do you think they would contribute?
How would you explain resilience as a streetwise and cool virtue to a teenager?
We cannot allow a kind of 'Fog of War' in designing our futures. This can be achieved by joining the views of many people together.
If the European Commission was to create a DG (Directorate General) Resilience to work towards a Luminous Green future, what would be its biggest challenges?
Besides the issue of being primarily a monetary union the EU has disappointed me with their very irresponsible policy on chemical additives in food and I think food is just the start. We should be aiming to at least rid our environment of more toxic substances. If needed budgets dedicated to research on pre-human ancestors should be directed towards the protection of current humanoids/apes. Financial mayhem will be a huge obstacle to keep our focus on the Long Now. And an energy policy that actually reduces CO2 emissions.
If you, or someone you know would be a Luminous Green superhero, what abilities would s/he have, what would s/he do?
In designing a LG superhero to my surprise super-weaknesses seem vital; like the way low spacial awareness could lead to deep findability. This may be seen also in the way many things of beauty are fragile in some way.